[tournament-org] WhereIsTheBar

[Francis Roads]

Tricky, but on the whole I agree with Toby.

Regards,
Francis

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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 12:42, Jenny Rofe-Radcliffe via tournament-org <
tournament-org at lists.britgo.org> wrote:

> Hi Geoff,
>
> Ooh, an interesting challenge. I am just going to write a couple of lines
> of filler so other people can hopefully avoid reading my answer before they
> write their own, as well as avoiding reading the handbook.
>
> My short answer is: it depends. In an ideal world, eight is the perfect
> number above the bar for a three round tournament, because (if jigo is
> disallowed) that guarantees a single unique winner.
>
> However, there are two problems with that: eight players would mean
> differentiating the 3k players somehow, and it would also involve the
> possibility of a hilariously uneven game between the 5d and whichever 3k
> was above the bar. There are circumstances in which I might go ahead with
> this anyway - if the GoR of the two 3ks is widely spaced, *and* it's a
> reasonably informal and friendly tournament in which I have sole authority
> to make this kind of decision[1] *and* the 5d is a nice friendly person who
> doesn't mind rapidly and politely mashing a 3k and then giving them a
> teaching review until other players are done[2], *and* the stronger 3k is
> going to enjoy and benefit from such a beating. If this is what I do, I at
> least consider re-randomising a few times if the first round does draw the
> 3k against the 5d.
>
> I really don't want to have an odd number above the bar, so if the
> criteria don't apply with the 3ks, I look to see if I can split the 2ks
> instead, on the same model. And if that doesn't work, maybe I do it with
> the 1ks.
>
> Clearly if it's a more formal tournament or one in which I don't have sole
> decision-making power, I will see whether there are official rules or other
> organisers with strong opinions.
>
> If I don't know the 5d well enough to make any judgement of how they will
> handle the situation, I might well err on the side of splitting the 1ks on
> GoR.
>
> I probably default to splitting the 2ks on GoR, in the absence of
> information about all these permutations. And I simultaneously swear at and
> bless the 1d who has shown up at the last minute to hopefully make the 5d's
> tournament a bit more interesting.
>
> Note that this all sounds quite convoluted but actually, I have probably
> done some version of all this thinking *before* the last minute. Because I
> have met dan players before and I know there's always a good chance of a
> last minute entry or a no-show.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jenny
>
>
> [1] It's my tournament and I'll make people cry if I want to ...
> [2] It wasn't a 5d and a 3k, but my game against Paul Christie in the
> Scottish Open of 2009 is my benchmark here. He didn't try to take every
> stone off the board, he just calmly and reasonably beat me, and then
> explained how he'd done it. It was great. Perfect example of how to handle
> this sort of situation. And then he went on to get more interesting games.
>
> On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 at 11:45, Geoff Kaniuk via tournament-org <
> tournament-org at lists.britgo.org> wrote:
>
>> You have just registered your last player who happens to be 1d and
>> people are waiting impatiently,  wanting to get on with your 3 round
>> McMahon tournament.
>>
>> You are now faced with with the problem of where to set the the bar.
>> Suppose in this tournament the top players are:
>>
>> 5d 1d 1d 1k 1k 2k 2k 3k 3k 4k 4k 5k .....
>>
>> Assuming all players enter at a realistic grade, where would you set the
>> bar?
>>
>> It would be interesting to see your instinctive answer, rather than
>> consulting the Tournament Organiser's Handbook.
>>
>> --
>> Geoff
>>
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