<div>                After running a couple of events at the start of the year I asked Geoff about<br>the grade that Godraw suggests for each player. As 90% of the players<br>in the relevant range do look at their ratings it should be a case of calling<br>their name up in Godraw and seeing it is the same and accepting it. <br>At present you have to check why their grade and Godraw's grade are<br>different and then overtype what Godraw suggests. This it is obviously<br>too much like hard work and for on the day entries you may not have internet<br>to check why. The 10% that are different can then be discussed with<br>the player and a decision based on non-EGD data/reasoning. <br><br>We agreed that Godraw players file should be changed, but Geoff wanted<br>Council to approve the change. It seems daft for the "policy" to be for<br>players to use their rating, but the BGA's draw program not to. <br>Just changing this would make a big difference when entering names.<br><br>Note that the EGD is updated every day and we cannot get a date<br>when UK players last changed, for instance. <br><br>For Richard: two of the views you want are already under tools - view rank list<br>and view prize list.<br><br>AJAx<br>From: Tony Atkins ajaxgo@yahoo.co.uk<br>Vice-President: British Go Association<br><br>            </div>            <div class="yahoo_quoted" style="margin:10px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ccc;padding-left:1ex;">                        <div style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">                                <div>                    On Sunday, 16 June 2019, 19:02:14 BST, Matt Marsh via tournament-org <tournament-org@lists.britgo.org> wrote:                </div>                <div><br></div>                <div><br></div>                <div><div id="yiv9923163927"><div>    <p>OK - and so this goes back to the original point.<br clear="none">    </p>    <p>Godraw will default based on what they started their last      tournament at - not what their current grade is based on GoR      coming out of the last tournament.</p>    <p>Sure, asking people if it's correct is one thing. But this relies      on people knowing whether it's correct or not - and often people      don't. So then they just tend to agree with whatever is being      suggested to them.<br clear="none">    </p>    <p>I think Geoff & I are both in agreement that as TDs we do      need to do a bit more than that. We should be checking grades      against the current EGD ratings. It's a bit more work, but it does      feel like the right thing to do.</p>    <p>Of course if Godraw implemented the changes I've proposed then in      your case it should be more likely correct...</p>    <p>Matt</p>    <p><br clear="none">    </p>    <div class="yiv9923163927yqt2315678091" id="yiv9923163927yqt29528"><div class="yiv9923163927moz-cite-prefix">On 16/06/2019 18:57, Richard Wheeldon      wrote:<br clear="none">    </div>    <blockquote type="cite">      </blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv9923163927yqt2315678091" id="yiv9923163927yqt33295"><div><div id="yiv9923163927__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;"> Go Draw default        usually unless they've said something different when they        entered and I have that to hand (not always the case),        <div><br clear="none">        </div>        <div>Richard</div>        <blockquote class="yiv9923163927history_container" type="cite" style="border-left-style:solid;border-width:1px;margin-top:20px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:10px;">          <p style="color:#AAAAAA;margin-top:10px;">On 6/16/2019            5:48:22 PM, Matt Marsh <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv9923163927moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:matt@crazedbytes.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:matt@crazedbytes.net"><matt@crazedbytes.net></a> wrote:</p>          <div style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">            <p>Richard,<br clear="none">            </p>            <div class="yiv9923163927moz-cite-prefix">On 16/06/2019 18:49, Richard              Wheeldon wrote:<br clear="none">            </div>            <blockquote type="cite">              </blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div class="yiv9923163927yqt2315678091" id="yiv9923163927yqt36859"><div id="yiv9923163927__MailbirdStyleContent" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#000000;"> I make a                point of telling folks what grade they're down at and                asking them if it's correct.</div>                        <p>When you say that you tell them what grade they're "down              at", where do you get the "down at" grade from? Is that              something you've taken from the EGD (manually), the grade              they specified when they entered, the grade Godraw has              defaulted them to, or something else?</p>            <p>Thanks,<br clear="none">              Matt<br clear="none">  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