<div dir="ltr">Hi Geoff,<div><br></div><div>In the case of a TD as relaxed as the one you describe, none of the proposals in this thread would help them, unfortunately - if we wish to help them, we have to come up with some other magic.</div><div><br></div><div>For those of us conscientious enough to make sure we enter the bulk of the entry list into GoDraw in advance of the tournament, Matt's second suggestion would very simply remind us if it's a long time since we downloaded a player list. I cannot possibly see a down side to that. Rich's suggestion of an automated version sounds very nice, but I can see that it would be significantly harder, and so I don't think it's needed.</div><div><br></div><div>Matt's first suggestion - that GoDraw look at the players' GoR to derive a grade, rather than their last-tournament-entry-grade - is a fantastic idea. It would still need manual checking, but it would remove a big chunk of the "discrepancies" I find myself looking at. Again, I cannot see a down side to it, unless it would be radically more work than I am imagining.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>Jenny</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 15:08, Geoff Kaniuk via tournament-org <<a href="mailto:tournament-org@lists.britgo.org">tournament-org@lists.britgo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks Jenny.<br>
<br>
I am not sure I understand your first question. I am not against using <br>
technology and much of it actually does work most of the time. What I am <br>
concerned about is TD's becoming over confident and not adequately <br>
preparing for the draw before the tournament starts.<br>
<br>
I also believe in solving problems in the simplest way possible. But the <br>
solutions proposed rely on TD's being prepared to update their files <br>
shortly before the tournament starts. Not all do.<br>
<br>
Example:<br>
TD arrives at venue 9am to open up for a Tournament to start at 10:15, <br>
and knows latest player list with up to date grades can be downloaded <br>
from BGA site. Tries to download file but internet connection is down. <br>
Checks provider status which says we are currently in maintenance and <br>
will be up and running at 11:30 - sorry for the inconvenience!<br>
<br>
Geoff<br>
<br>
33 Ashbury Close, Cambridge CB1 3RW 01223 710582<br>
<br>
On 17/06/2019 10:44, Jenny Rofe-Radcliffe via tournament-org wrote:<br>
> I expect we can all do the draw and prize-list by hand if our computer<br>
> collapses in the middle of a round (I did, for London's prizes last year)<br>
> but it's not *completely* unreasonable to say that when we know our venues<br>
> and our technology, we can expect to use it. Otherwise what are we doing<br>
> using GoDraw at all, Geoff?<br>
> <br>
> That said, a simple reminder from GoDraw to download the latest player list<br>
> would be fine by me.<br>
> <br>
> In broad principle I agree with the ideas in both Geoff's original post and<br>
> Matt's response, but as Matt's suggestions look as if they'd solve most of<br>
> the problems in a very simple way, I like them best; I believe in solving<br>
> problems the easiest ways.<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> <br>
> Jenny<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2019 at 10:34, Geoff Kaniuk via tournament-org <<br>
> <a href="mailto:tournament-org@lists.britgo.org" target="_blank">tournament-org@lists.britgo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
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